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Post Icon Posted: Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:56 pm

Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:39 pm, Number13 wrote:
Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:08 pm, MrJimmyDickens wrote:


Fights: is Anthony Mantha signaling that he is going to be leading this team with his body if he's not doing it on the scoreboard? I think he deserves something because he didn't bitch to refs as Zetterberg tends to when McKegg hit his teammate from behind, he just went at him and even gave him extra.


That is the clichéd difference between North American players and European players. I think since we're in rebuild mode I'd like to see the transition of thinking North American players first. We have been a team for far too many years that is soft in the payback department when we're cheap shotted. This started years ago and that was fine and dandy when we'd make em pay with power play goals but we don't do much of that anymore so fuck soft Euro skill if they're pussies.

Mantha, Athanasiou, Larkin are high skill players who are not afraid to be physical when called upon to do so vs turning the back ans saying "we're pussies so feel free to manhandle this softness at will and nothing will come of it"


Is this really European pussies? Seeing how many of them play in the CHL leagues before the NHL and the NCAA and AHL where they are fighting and scrapping.....or is this more that Mantha didn't come up in the throes of "discipline over everything" that Zetterberg did? Red Wings used to get away with that because they a) had the skill to punish via the power play, but also b) had the tough players to punish physically. Every great detroit lineup had skill but also had plenty of tough guys as well so it was easy to preach discipline. As skill declined and Ken Holland put zero value on toughness, we've seen 3+ straight years of detroit just being pushed around. So at any rate, this is really good to see
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Post Icon Posted: Mar 25th, 2017 at 03:50 pm

The great teams had skill AND toughness. They gradually went out while Babcock reigned supreme. Yes, he did complain about needing certain guys but I never saw him having much use for character guys who would fight if nothing else.

We all recall Weber slamming Z's face into the boards with scarcely a whimper....that was sort of a turning point in the downhill spiral they have been on ever since. Blashill simply has no clue as to what type of team or playing style he wants and the players are confused.

One good thing is that the young guys are starting to assert themselves in spite of Blashill's inept management of lines and lack of structure on the offensive. Defensively, I see some significant growth in the D lately....is it a coincidence that Big E is not there?
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